{"id":10481191,"date":"2023-11-11T10:29:55","date_gmt":"2023-11-11T09:29:55","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/kapitalis.com\/tunisie\/?p=10481191"},"modified":"2023-11-11T10:29:56","modified_gmt":"2023-11-11T09:29:56","slug":"shlomo-sand-la-solution-a-deux-etats-est-la-seule-solution-pour-la-survie-disrael","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/kapitalis.com\/tunisie\/2023\/11\/11\/shlomo-sand-la-solution-a-deux-etats-est-la-seule-solution-pour-la-survie-disrael\/","title":{"rendered":"Shlomo Sand\u00a0: \u00abLa solution \u00e0 deux Etats est la seule solution pour la survie d\u2019Isra\u00ebl\u00bb"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p><strong><em>Shlomo Sand, \u00e9crivain et historien, auteur de deux c\u00e9l\u00e8bres essais \u2018\u2018Comment j\u2019ai cess\u00e9 d\u2019\u00eatre juif\u2019\u2019 et \u2018\u2018Comment le peuple juif fut invent\u00e9\u2019\u2019, fait partie de ces Isra\u00e9liens qui sont en rupture de ban avec le r\u00e9gime d\u2019apartheid en place dans leur pays. Il est peu \u00e9cout\u00e9 en Occident o\u00f9 l\u2019on continue de d\u00e9fendre les fables du sionisme g\u00e9nocidaire. \u00a0<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<!--more-->\n\n\n\n<p>Chlomo Sand a pass\u00e9 les deux premi\u00e8res ann\u00e9es de sa vie dans un camp de r\u00e9fugi\u00e9s juifs polonais, en Allemagne. Ses parents ont ensuite \u00e9migr\u00e9 en Isra\u00ebl o\u00f9 il a grandi. Apr\u00e8s avoir particip\u00e9 \u00e0 la guerre des Six Jours en 1967 comme simple soldat, il a choisi de militer dans l\u2019extr\u00eame-gauche isra\u00e9lienne favorable \u00e0 un Etat palestinien.&nbsp; Il affirme agir contre l\u2019injustice d\u2019Isra\u00ebl et sa politique de colonisation.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Dans un entretien au journal en ligne marocain <em><a href=\"https:\/\/laquotidienne.ma\/article\/info-politique\/Shlomo-Sand-juif-Israel\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">La Quotidienne<\/a><\/em> paru le\u00a017 juillet 2023, il explique ses positions et ses engagements. Nous en tirons les extraits suivants\u2026<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Comment j\u2019ai cess\u00e9 d\u2019\u00eatre juif&nbsp;:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Je ne peux pas supporter les lois isra\u00e9liennes qui m\u2019imposent d\u2019appartenir, malgr\u00e9 mes id\u00e9es et mes principes, \u00e0 une ethnie fictive. Je refuse aussi d\u2019\u00eatre vu par le monde comme un \u00eatre qui appartient \u00e0 un club d\u2019\u00e9lus. C\u2019est dans ce sens, que j\u2019ai d\u00e9cid\u00e9 de pr\u00e9senter ma d\u00e9mission et de cesser d\u2019\u00eatre Juif. Je suis Isra\u00e9lien et non juif.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-wp-embed is-provider-kapitalis wp-block-embed-kapitalis\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"hrLrpbOSdH\"><a href=\"https:\/\/kapitalis.com\/tunisie\/2023\/11\/10\/michele-sibony-il-est-scandaleux-quon-narrete-pas-israel\/\">Mich\u00e8le Sibony : \u00abIl est scandaleux qu\u2019on n\u2019arr\u00eate pas Isra\u00ebl \u00bb*<\/a><\/blockquote><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; clip: rect(1px, 1px, 1px, 1px);\" title=\"\u00ab\u00a0Mich\u00e8le Sibony : \u00abIl est scandaleux qu\u2019on n\u2019arr\u00eate pas Isra\u00ebl \u00bb*\u00a0\u00bb &#8212; Kapitalis\" src=\"https:\/\/kapitalis.com\/tunisie\/2023\/11\/10\/michele-sibony-il-est-scandaleux-quon-narrete-pas-israel\/embed\/#?secret=Q1M48psxBf#?secret=hrLrpbOSdH\" data-secret=\"hrLrpbOSdH\" width=\"600\" height=\"338\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>On ne peut <\/strong><strong>avoir des droits historiques sur une terre apr\u00e8s 2000 ans&nbsp;: <\/strong><strong><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Si je vous dis que les anciens h\u00e9breux sont les anc\u00eatres des Isra\u00e9liens, c\u2019est comme si je vous disais que les Gaulois sont les anc\u00eatres des Fran\u00e7ais, c\u2019est compl\u00e8tement faux. Mais le fait de l\u2019attester est une manipulation, une d\u00e9naturation de l\u2019Histoire pour servir de basses fins politiques. (\u2026) Je pense qu\u2019il est inconcevable d\u2019avoir des droits historiques sur une terre apr\u00e8s 2000 ans.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>On le voit aujourd\u2019hui avec les Serbes qui ne peuvent plus affirmer un droit historique sur le Kosovo du simple fait que leurs anc\u00eatres ont habit\u00e9 sur cette terre il y a plusieurs si\u00e8cles. Ou alors les Allemands pr\u00e9tendre avoir des droits historiques sur l\u2019Alsace Lorraine, ou les Arabes sur l\u2019Andalousie&#8230; Je vous le dis sans d\u00e9tours : le mythe du retour \u00e0 la terre promise a \u00e9t\u00e9 la condition sine qua non de la colonisation sioniste. Et \u00e7a a march\u00e9.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Accorder les m\u00eames droits aux Juifs et aux Palestiniens&nbsp;:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>En 1988, j\u2019ai applaudi quand j\u2019ai entendu Yasser Arafat dire qu\u2019il acceptait l\u2019existence de l\u2019Etat d\u2019Isra\u00ebl. Mais je souhaite que cet Etat accorde les m\u00eames droits d\u00e9mocratiques \u00e0 tous ses citoyens, juifs comme palestiniens. Ce que je veux, c\u2019est qu\u2019un Palestinien puisse se sentir \u00e0 Tel Aviv comme un Juif ailleurs dans le monde, respect\u00e9 et consid\u00e9r\u00e9 comme un citoyen \u00e0 part enti\u00e8re.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>La soci\u00e9t\u00e9 isra\u00e9lienne est l\u2019une des plus racistes au monde\u00a0: <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Je crois que la solution \u00e0 deux Etats est la seule solution pour la survie de l\u2019Etat d\u2019Isra\u00ebl. Il n\u2019y a pas d\u2019autres choix. Il est aussi possible sur un plan moral de cr\u00e9er un Etat binational comme le pense l\u2019extr\u00eame gauche. Mais cela reviendrait \u00e0 dire que les Juifs deviendraient minoritaires sur le plan d\u00e9mographique dans leur pays. Evidemment, les racistes en Isra\u00ebl ne vont pas l\u2019accepter. C\u2019est que la v\u00e9rit\u00e9 est que la soci\u00e9t\u00e9 isra\u00e9lienne est actuellement l&rsquo;une des plus racistes du monde occidental.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-wp-embed is-provider-kapitalis wp-block-embed-kapitalis\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"kkht2Rd66n\"><a href=\"https:\/\/kapitalis.com\/tunisie\/2023\/11\/10\/les-palestiniens-sont-les-nouveaux-indiens-les-indiens-disrael\/\">Les Palestiniens sont les nouveaux Indiens, les Indiens d\u2019Isra\u00ebl<\/a><\/blockquote><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; clip: rect(1px, 1px, 1px, 1px);\" title=\"\u00ab\u00a0Les Palestiniens sont les nouveaux Indiens, les Indiens d\u2019Isra\u00ebl\u00a0\u00bb &#8212; Kapitalis\" src=\"https:\/\/kapitalis.com\/tunisie\/2023\/11\/10\/les-palestiniens-sont-les-nouveaux-indiens-les-indiens-disrael\/embed\/#?secret=3eZQ0DVN9P#?secret=kkht2Rd66n\" data-secret=\"kkht2Rd66n\" width=\"600\" height=\"338\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>La politique de colonisation m\u00e8nera \u00e0 la destruction d\u2019Isra\u00ebl\u00a0: <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Il reste un unique espoir. Il faut absolument que l\u2019administration am\u00e9ricaine fasse pression sur Isra\u00ebl pour n\u00e9gocier avec les Palestiniens. Sans une r\u00e9elle d\u00e9termination ext\u00e9rieure, il n\u2019y aura pas de changement en Isra\u00ebl. Ni de paix. Mais si on laisse les Isra\u00e9liens poursuivre leur aveugle politique de colonisation, cela m\u00e8nera \u00e0 sa propre destruction.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Vous savez, le spectre de la guerre est aussi un leurre. Il n\u2019y aura pas de solution arm\u00e9e \u00e0 ce conflit. La n\u00e9gociation est la seule voie pour la survie de l\u2019Etat d\u2019Isra\u00ebl.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>La n\u00e9gociation est la seule voie pour la survie de l\u2019Etat d\u2019Isra\u00ebl, estime l&rsquo;historien Isra\u00e9lien Shlomo Sand. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":8,"featured_media":10481225,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[992,997],"tags":[26892,2478,4026,2739,112149,112148,91017],"class_list":["post-10481191","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-a-la-une","category-politique","tag-colonisation","tag-israel","tag-palestine","tag-palestiniens","tag-peuple-juif","tag-shlomo-sand","tag-yasser-arafat"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v26.6 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Shlomo Sand\u00a0: \u00abLa solution \u00e0 deux Etats est la seule solution pour la survie d\u2019Isra\u00ebl\u00bb - 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